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  • NegBox 5:22 pm on December 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Video Boss Shitstorm and The Salty Droid 

    This is one of those posts I know I will regret within minutes…

    A while back I started reading The Salty Droid’s blog.

    Honestly, I don’t get it. The guy behind The Salty Droid is funny and brilliant – I laughed my ass off with his videos.

    What I don’t get is how “The Syndicate” are totally evil scumbags.

    I just listened to 90 minutes out of two hours of a Syndicate conference call The Salty Droid posted on his blog. I was really hoping to find some really juicy stuff – You know, killing kittens and human sacrifices to Cthulhu. All I found was a couple of guys trying to figure out how to do their product launch to get the most money – Their products may be good, or they may be shit – They’re probably shit, yet that’s not for me to judge. What I can make a judgment call on is the tone of the conversation and their intentions.

    Yes, they sell an overpriced dream. And they use many of science’s best marketing tactics available. And they are fairly well organized, to the point they can surround you with the message. Almost like a true cult… So? Life is chock-full of friends, and also brimming with people trying to fuck you over. What else is news? They belong to the “People trying to fuck you over” category – If we lived in the world of “The Invention of Lying”, then I would be shocked, as it is, these guys are kiddie candy thiefs – Why so much hate?

    I was hoping to hear how they were going to fuck people over by having them hand over their retirement funds in exchange for the philosopher’s stone – or something like Enron, or like Jim Jones and “The People’s Temple”, and really all they talk about is how to structure the launch so it sells more. I was hoping to hear how they were going to take the money and run to Bermuda. Or how they were going to escape the FBI. Or how they were going to embezzle ClickBank. Jeez, at the very least I was hoping to hear them talk about their customers in a condescending tone! Not even. WTF. Where is the video of Sekhmet drinking the blood of Syndicate  adepts?

    • Matthias 1:45 pm on December 9, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Why should you regret this post? I also discovered the Salty Droid some while ago and thought it was funny and useful to get some background information about some of the supposedly “big gurus” in the internet marketing business. Interesting to see how much money you can still pull with this stuff. By the way, who started this “I Make Money Online By Telling People How I Make Money Online” thing, it wasn’t John Chow was it? 😀

      • Slave Rat 5:03 pm on December 9, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        You’ll see – it never fails. It is indeed amazing what they do – at the same time these cronies are just ants crawling around the mouth of the shithole – a shithole that every time I thought I had seen the very bottom, I was wrong. I dare you to even peek under the hood of the cesspool of astrology.

  • NegBox 5:39 pm on November 8, 2010 Permalink | Reply
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    What About Guru Products? 

    Nothing is ever black and white – so here’s the skinny.

    You keep getting bombarded by “Product Launches”. What to do? Are they good? Bad? Evil?

    They are not all bad, and they are not all good. The major difference between a good product and a bad product is YOU. Yes, you. Not the product, YOU.

    Quick example: If it is a guru product on PPC, then it will only be good for you if you haven’t done PPC and haven’t had any other training on PPC.

    The bottom line is: It is not the guru product that will lead you to success; it is busting your ass trying to make it work.

    The guru product is like reading a book on exercise techniques – you’re not going to get any fitter while reading it – You might learn of good gyms, equipment, supplements and related stuff – but THE BOOK WONT MAKE YOU SWEAT ONE DROP.

    There’s another deeper problem with these “products” – They can’t give you a ‘road to riches’ – because that road keeps changing each and every single day. What you could do today on MySpace ads, you can’t do tomorrow – and if you can still do it, now there are a couple hundred more people doing it. You’re going to find that the “product” is either so generic you can’t apply it directly, or if it is specific enough, that it just doesn’t work out for you because the environment has changed. And it isn’t a matter of getting a “fresh” product – things change so incredibly fast that yesterday’s news is pretty much OBSOLETE. As the saying goes: “If it’s news, you lose!

    Here are some practical tips – shit I actually did, shit I failed at and shit I still do:

    1)      Budget spend:

    What is your budget? Write it down, whether you’re coming in with $2,000 of play money or $200 a month, write that down.

    Take 1/3rd of the budget and put that towards learning. No matter if that is guru products, forum subscriptions or books – you cannot go over that amount even if the Pope gives you a ring and pitches his Tax-Sheltered Holy Bling Profit System. If you set it aside per month, then it’s a per-month limit. If you set aside a chunk of money, then that’s all you have and that’s it – no more, no less. I did exactly this.

    2)      Whatever you sign up to, you do it. Make sure you’re not signing up for a 3-year course. You want it all and you want it now – Fuck the “drip-feed” where they give you a pinch of content every week – run like hell.

    3)      You read the books, watch the videos, you do the exercises, you follow along like your life depends on it. You read the material three times. You think about it while you’re peeing, you think about it while you’re shitting, you think about it while you’re fucking… And when you’re done peeing, shitting and fucking around, you DO *SOMETHING*.  You carry a notepad and jot down ideas, and then sit down and do them sequentially.

    4)      After you’ve assimilated a couple of these, being books, video courses or whatever, you STOP. Yes, you STOP. You now know everything the guru courses can teach you – now you need to talk to people wherever they may be. At this point, guru shit is likely to be a giant waste of time.

    5)      An EXCELLENT source of information, training and tips are the little “marketing guides” blogs put up to entice you to sign-up to their mailing lists – Some blogs put up these guides without the mailing list sign-up – these are usually even more valuable. If it’s a list that goes out every week or more often than that, you can bet your ass that person is trying to cash in on you – IGNORE. If it’s a list that goes out every time there is a blue moon, chances are high whatever it is they’re sending is worth at least reading the e-mail. Don’t know where to start? Start here on my post about Uber-Affiliate’s Marketing Guide updated for 2010 and its links.

    6)      Do not fall for the idea that its ok for a blogger or guru to monetize their time on the blog or “marketing guide” by plaguing it with paid plugs and affiliate links. It creates a three-way conflict of interest where you –the reader- is the only possible loser – just move on, there are plenty of other sources of the same information out there. And no, just because everybody does it, doesn’t make it any less risky for you to trust “incentivized” opinions.

    7)      Skip guru blogs for the most part and head for the real people. Take a peek at their posts – These are the blogs that will give you the best tips, most useful tools and best pointers. Who are these bloggers and blogs? Look at my list of recommended affiliate marketing blogs – Those bloggers will give you the scoop. Others will scoop you up and wring you dry.

    Recap for Alzheimer’s and ADHD: Stop buying guru shit, read the blogs on my recommended list and the guides I linked from my post on Uber-Affiliate’s Marketing Guide updated for 2010. The rest is blood, sweat and tears.

    Now go sweat, bleed and cry!

    • Dude 12:06 pm on November 9, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks, that pretty well clears it up for me. This is more than most IM’s will say. Most of them just say that all guru products are crap and don’t get any further into the explanation.

      I think I’m starting to get it though. Nobody can really tell you what to start a business in. This you have to think for yourself. Same with IM.

      • Slave Rat 7:48 pm on November 9, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        You’re welcome – Its not all bad and not all good. If you wade into my posts you’ll see I went into the ShoeMoney System which was a total waste – I also got my hands on List Control 2 that was useful… I went through a lot of the trainings offered by PPCBully in their videos and VIP videos, even went through the videos from Zero Friction Marketing (bleah), the books for AffiloBlueprint… Don’t think for a minute that I dropped $2K for list control or such sums; I’m not that nice or naive. That post pretty much sums it up, though. It all depends on where you start, and regardless of where you start, after a very base competence level none of it will be worth your time.

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