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  • NegBox 7:56 pm on September 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: DirectCPV, Gamebound, Gamevance, , LeadImpact, Loudmo.com, MediaTraffic, TrafficVance, Vombashots   

    The Spy Who Popped Me 

    Originally posted to the Internet University message board

    Captains log, Stardate -313708.32

    I went back to the Zip submit campaign I was running and trimmed the URLs so at least I’m keeping 2-3 profitable URLs. Ultimately I don’t want to invest a ton of time on something I know won’t take me very far even if I get it 100% awesome. I may come back and try some other crazy stuff with them

    I grabbed an old laptop – a Thinkpad T30 and loaded it with Gamevance, Hotbar, Vombashots and Gamebound for DirectCPV. I’m learning quite a bit. The hardest part was getting stupid Hotbar to not get nuked by the Antivirus. I also installed an older version of Firefox. I ‘m aware the machine is at risk for viruses and trojans, so it gets backed up nightly and can be rebuilt in 30 minutes. Its also not part of the core of my home network, just in case. Its slow as freaking molasses, but does the job. Today I was able to see and screencapture one of my own pop-ups!!! It looked like shit – lesson learned.

    I had an interesting idea. A counter-intuitive and over-arching idea on where to target my promotions. Essentially I see two kinds of pop-ups:

    1 – DirectCPV interstitials: You have to provide the visitor what they were looking for, faster, simple and easier, and it HAS to match they site they just surfed into and you popped over

    2 – Other Pop-ups: You have to provide the user something they want MORE than what they are currently doing.

    The Pivotal a-ha moment I had was that instead of giving the user what they are looking for in a pop-up, I have to acknowledge that people are often doing something they DONT WANT to be doing. My task is to figure out where these unsavory tasks are, what they are doing that they don’t want to do, what they would rather be doing, and offer it to them. It isn’t easy – I have a feeling this idea is a keeper, though.

    On Stardate -313702.84 (AKA, Tuesday) I launched a campaign promoting mobile downloads, with five offers rotating through just one web site on LeadImpact and Mediatraffic – I’m trying to implement the idea I described above. So far there’s one conversion in there, so not much to say since traffic started running late yesterday. I still think the concept is a winner – I just have to prove it.

    Actually, there is something to say – MediaTraffic has sent a shit ton more traffic than LeadImpact, but no conversions, really. I don’t understand – their pop-ups are huge when compared.

    Gamevance started popping immediately after installation. Something I do is I make sure I click on the pop-ups. Why? Because I figure if they see me click on the pop-ups, they’ll probably send me more – this may be my imagination, though. That’s how I would design the algorithm – show more to those who like it.

    I have yet to see a DirectCPV ad. The other networks are almost flooding me.

    I also tried running a “Category” campaign on MediaTraffic. I stopped it after a couple of hours and a thousand pops – The price is much lower, $0.007 a pop instead of $0.015 (less than half). The traffic quality, however, was rock-bottom suck-ass. Their “classification” was ass-ward-back – I looked at the referrers, and while there wasn’t any obvious mischief, the pops came from things like parked pages, landers of other affiliate offers, and generally random and completely irrelevant shit.

    The machine is pretty hard to use… The pop ups are fairly regular.

    There was one very memorable pop-up: There’s an offer and landing page that I wanted to work on and I noticed a pop-up just like I had envisioned. This is no mere coincidence. I didn’t “accidentally” install all this crap on a laptop and surfed randomly. I went to a site where I thought a pop-up like that would be and set Firefox to refresh the page every two minutes, so I did find it. I analyzed it…

    Then I realized it actually had a small protection from other affiliates. Protection doesn’t work against a determined ass like me, and it probably isn’t meant to, but it likely trips up 80% of everyone else – I hope I’m not blowing the lid on anyone here – I’m not very good with JavaScript – Actually, I suck at it. Still, I can understand some things. This is a javascript that writes to the page a series of some 30 internet marketing related URLs – Including shoemoney.com, tracking202.com, leadimpact.com, etc – The super-affiliate twins blog isn’t there – there’s plenty of others, including Jonathanvolk.com. Anyways, before it writes the links into a particular <div> section, it styles them with a specific CSS that has the font size at 1px, one pixel, and color is white on white. They’re invisible and they don’t really show up if you look at the page code (you can see the Javascript or you can see the Div it if you snag the page with something like ScrapBook). Anyways – I knew some years back there was a way to figure out if a site had visited other sites by checking with Javascript the color of links – this is similar, except this script is checking the height of the letters that make up each of the links on the <div>, if one matches “1px”, it sends the browser an <IMG> tag as part of the page, that IMG tag points to a PHP file that logs the site it matched with a simple URL Variable, and I assume it logs the IP, plus it sets a cookie with a 2-year expiration (which it checks for at the start). Then it redirects the browser to a landing page that has the same theme and functionality of the “real” landing page, but it is significantly different – Likely a very-poorly converting copy of the landing page.

    Now I have to cross the Neutral Zone…

    Stardate -313708.34

    Here’s my handy list of the software that goes with each network

    Leadimpact = Hotbar
    TrafficVance = Gamevance
    MediaTraffic = Vombashots
    DirectCPV = Loudmo.com – Gamebound

    Stardate -313708.40

    <Sarcasm warning> Oh… But how refreshing this is… I start digging with Robtex.com at the sever of a pop-up and it turns out the server is located in Turkey, registered in Turkey, and also does e-mail for just two other domains… Both of those other domains are in German… Here’s a Google translation snippet of the homepage:

    “The CC is a relaxed, friendly association of people with pedophilic inclinations and non-pedophile people of any race. Anyone who wants to deal with no attacks or accusations with the theme, is hereby cordially invited to visit our homepage and our public discussion forum and to participate in the discussions.”

    What… the.. fuck…

    Computer, end entry.

    ere’s my handy list of the software that goes with each network

    Leadimpact = Hotbar
    TrafficVance = Gamevance
    MediaTraffic = Vombashots
    DirectCPV = Loudmo.com – Gamebound

     
    • Mike Chiasson 8:52 pm on September 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      1st: Thanks for costing me $XX today by browsing my pops! haha.

      2nd: Very interesting ideas about the user intentions when viewing the pops! I don’t think gamevance shows more/less pops depending if you click on them. I’ve clicked on one out of every like 2k I see lol and still get em every page.

      • Slave Rat 1:22 am on September 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        All your pops are belong to me!

        Thanks for the tip… I’ll stop clicking on the silly pop-ups then.

  • NegBox 4:50 pm on August 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: Bidding, CPV, LeadImpact,   

    LeadImpact Bid Increase of $0.0001 – Good or bad? 

    Call me dumb, but I just realized I can increase my bid by $0.0001 and outbid 30% of competitors on higher traffic URLs. Take a look at this screenshot…

    URL Competition Bidding at LeadImpact

    I was really trying to figure out a way to “mark” some URLs when I noticed I could do this…

    It does seem to push down the other advertisers in the queue – I am bidding on some URLs from two different campaigns and the $0.0001 increase keeps that campaign’s “rank”, but pushes the others one rank lower.

    Does this drive more traffic? Sooner? I’m not really sure. I noticed that even though you may be ranked 10th on a URL, you’ll still get traffic from it. When does LeadImpact show the ads for a lower bid, when frequency cap is reached?  That way the person doesn’t see the same pop-up over and over? What is a bit confusing is that pop-ups don’t happen *that* often – So who is managing to trigger the tenth pop-up within 24 hours on a particular URL? Might it make sense to not even bid on a keyword where you rank so low?

    Questions, questions, questions…

     
  • NegBox 4:57 pm on July 29, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , LeadImpact, Looners, Pop,   

    Pop Me Baby, Pop Me! 

    Following Jonathan Volk’s lead I installed one of LeadImpact’s adware crapware toolbars into my machine. I tried Hotbar first but my antivirus kept deleting the executable in the middle of the installation… Fortunately they have several crapware offerings and I managed to get one going.

    Platrium Crapbar

    The Platrium Crapbar

    Pop me, baby… I want to see what this looks like! I’ve never had this kind of trash installed on my machine.


    <ramble> Speaking of popping… Reminds me of balloons… And the girls on this site.. All combined reminds me of an out-of-this-world sex fetish I saw… Some folks get turned on by popping balloons… Like girls squatting over baloons till the balloon pops – I’m looking it up now and they’re called “Looners“. Can you believe that?

    You gotta be kidding

    If you’re reading this and that balloon stuff turns you on, I’d love to know what childhood experience caused this – Believe me it ain’t freaking normal to get turned on by balloons. If you can’t even believe this exists – check out the link. Its just… weird.</ramble>

     
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